| December 31,1997 |
| December 29,1997 |
also I got to ask 1 question...of course, it was the question we all want to know and that was the new solo album...and the reply that I got from him was "It's coming Very soon!!!"
| December 27,1997 |
| December 21,1997 |
One can only imagine what it will sound like !!!!!!!!!!!
| December 17,1997 |
13. cEvin Key - No More Ghosts
Written and performed by cEvin Key 1992
Published by the Subconscious Birdwatcher 1997
the track itself is 4:36 and very Doubting Thomas-esque, pretty much what you'd expect from 1992-era cEvin Key.
| December 16,1997 |
UPC 60865700172 $ 12.00
All exclusive techno tracks from cEvin KEY (Skinny Puppy, Downlaoad), Sister Machine Gun, 16 Volt, Spahn Ranch, Severed Heads, Van Christie (Die Warzau), Pain Station, Alien Faktor, Oneiroid Psychosis, and more. This compilation is a MUST for ALL stores this Christmas.
| December 15,1997 |
cEVIN: "We're still friends. It wasn't really like a big argument or anything like that. Once again, it's getting true to setting out to accomplish what you're interested in. I think with the tour last year, we realized that we had goals, but some of them were different than others. We felt that the addition of lyrics at this time wasn't really something we're interested in unless they were going to be very moving. I don't think that Mark necessarily considers himself a vocalist or a lyricist, and I think we found that for us vocals in this sense were a bit redundant."
| December 14,1997 |
I BRAINEATER * - sunset at the sunrise 9feetby5feet ! OIL PAINTING on wood, signed '93 [ Black frame black grey figures fighting on street ]
I BRAINEATER * - self portrait [femine version] 4 feet by 4 feet Oil on Wood,signed '83 [ large cameo with spinning background ]
* [ I braineater is also known as Jim Cummins who did the sleeve artwork for Too dark park , and Last rights, as well as many of the later Skinny Puppy T-shirt designs, not to mention countless hundreds of amazing and inspiring paintings that has made him a legend of sorts in Vancouver ]
| December 12,1997 |
:Which album did Download sample? In my opinion, sampling from the Wall or
:Dark Side is too fuckin easy. Why not sample from a Pink Floyd album that not
:everyone and his uncle owns? They probably don't own any other Pink Floyd albums.
:: download's "flight of luminous insects" is remarkably similar to floyd's "on
:: the run." i'm not sure any direct sampling is involved.
sk
FYI there was no sample. Only a dedication in our direction. All was performed live on analog sequencers.
danke c key
| December 8,1997 |
| December 7,1997 |
| December 5,1997 |
I'm moving Dec 6th and will have no internet access for 6-12 months. Basicly, until I buy a new computer. So don't expect replies to any mail you choose to send. I might be able to check it once in a long while. I might not. Thanks to everyone who's helped along the way and I hope to return ASAFP. Brap On.
Working Album Title Ritalin
Projected Release Date Mid-winter 1998, on Invisible
Why is It Anticipated? After American Recordings shelved his WELT project indefinitley, former Skinny Puppy vocalist Ogre teamed up with longtime friend Martin Atkins under the neame Ritalin. The album will be the singer's first full-legnth recording since Puppy's last album, 1996's The Process.
Whats It Gonna Sound Like? The duo will be working in Chicago and in London, bouth before and after Ogre's touring stint with KMFDM.
"I have no idea how [the album] will sound," says Atkins "If i knew that, I probably wouldn't make it. The reason I want to make the record is that I love Ogre a lot, and I like working with him. It's a good time for the label, and it's good for us creatively."
"I think [the record] will be loopy, loopy, loopy!" Ogre says, laughing. "I want to create intersting vocal meliodies and create loops from there. It's going to be a lot of fun stuff; im'm thinking of doing a cover of 'Scarecrow' from Syd Barnett-era Pink Floyd."
"Ogre dosn't know this," reveals Atkins, "but we're renting a boat for a day or two. I want him to do a vocal track where he can't see anything or anybody. Just go out on the lake far enough that he can't see the Chicago skyline. I want to experiment with things, but I don't want to be locked in a studio."
Bouth Ogre and Atkins are adamant that the creative process remain a
no-stress situation. "I've just come through this huge depression of
feeling, 'What if this work dosn't match up?'" admits Ogre. "I don't
feel I have to be comptitve with anyone anymore" - Jason Pettigrew
| December 3,1997 |
| December 2,1997 |
eks It affected the last album very very much... a sort of very sad atmosphere in the studio... beacause Dwayne was such a fun character in the studio... Dwayne always had a joke or always had a funny story... and he was also an amazingly talented musician... yeah, it affected the last album in the way it sounded, its a pretty sad album... how it will affect the future, I don't know...
We've started the new Teargarden... cEvin was actually in Holland for a week and we got in two sessions... its a challenge... Teargarden is a challenging band... its more electronic, the new material...
| December 1,1997 |
| November 26,1997 |
all of you folks have a real happy thanksgiving (or whatever)!
i'll be at the KMFDM shows in Orlando (Nov. 30) and Tampa (Dec. 2) and i hope to catch some of you there. send me a note (i hope i can get it) and perhaps we'll hook up.
No, I'm not joking. You've been worned. -)
The occasional stir of voices is povided by recordings gathered by Key during travels in Jamaica, the spoken words of
friends, poets, and anonymous beach drifters.
"There was a conscious attempt to identify with the fact that we were making a step forward," explains Key. "We had
done a fair bit of improvisation in the past, and for this album we decided to touch bases we felt are important to
express in electronic music".
subcon III
http://www.vkool.com/subconscious/
subConscious Communications
KILLFLY.
COLLISION.
32502 Download III Postcard $1.00 (postage paid)
The Process took two years to make -- a time that witnessed the acrimonious resignation of singer Nivek Orgre and the death of synthesist Dwayne Goettel. Everything about The Process is intense, and is an important rite of passage for the industrial music."
In Store/Spoken Word/Discussion at the following locations:
Sat. Oct. 25 Dallas, TX
Sun. Oct. 26 St. Louis, MO
Sun. Nov. 2 Philadelphia, PA
Sun. Nov. 2 Baltimore, MD
Claus
I was asked to do a track for it yesterday, and I've decided to say yes,
but there are so many great songs to cover, so I am asking you all for
help.
Have a great week end.
Claus
Who knows if Ogre and I will ever tour again .
bye
http://www.vkool.com/subconscious/
subConscious Communications
Apparently this CD was inspired by some long days (and nights) in the smoky underworld of Amsterdam's hospitable, over-the-counter weed establishments. Conceived and executed by Skinny Puppy's cEvin Key along with DJ Phil (from Off & Gone) and Key's partner from Download, Anthony Valcic, this is an electronic brouhaha of the highest order. Key and company engage in rough, impressionistic electronica that is neither soothing or really dance-oriented. Key's main talent is his ability to evoke brusque, acerbic soundscapes that jar the listener's aesthetic sensibilities rather than engage them. Fanatically rhythmic at times with interludes of drifting, subsonic notations, this music seems to have been crafted after going to the grass bars and not necessarily for the blunted milieu. A bit grating, as are Key's musical signatures in general, Music for Grass bars is mostly idiosyncratic mind-static set on automatic with a few decent lights in the attic. (Hypnotic/Cleopatra) - Mitch Myers
Three out of five
Subconscious Communications
And the newest member of our Web Ring can be found here or you can check out the Web Ring info on the right table and browse all or some of the ring members.
nix cyberstore please
http://www.vkool.com/subconscious/
subConscious Communications
Download was formed in the ashes of Skinny Puppy by cEvin Key and Dwayne Goettel. Past
records have featured collaborations with artists and producers such as Ken Marshall, Mark Spybey
and Genesis P. Orridge.
Last summer saw Download hit the road for a hugely successful tour which brought them through
almost every city in the USA and Canada.
Or if you so desire you can check out four of the tracks via 'Real Audio' at SonicNet here! 'Torture' is the second 'Real Audio' track, the quailty is fair if you have a quick connection. Here's a picture of the of the album, the title is the symbols at the bottom:
Former Skinny Puppy frontman Ogre has been keeping busy. Besides creating electronic soundscapes for his
own enjoyment at home, he's teaming up with Martin Atkins for a project dubbed Ritalin. "It's sort of like a
postcard," says the singer. "I told Martin we should try to sound as little like ourselves as possible, just rhythm and
voice." Ogre mentioned that the concept would be similar to the Pigface track "Insemination" from the album
Fook.
Martin and Ogre will be recording this fall. More info as it becomes available.
Gaebril@ibm.net
Autechre will be doing a remix for Download in November, and subcon are seeking some Chain Reaction
artists for remix as well for the ep. Stayed tuned for more information.
Artist:
Doubting Thomas
Release:
Father Don't Cry
Status:
re-release with 2 xtra tracks. Releases on Sept.
22nd via Metropolis Records.
tracklisting:
AFTER TWO OR THREE WEEKS TOURING IN GERMANY TOGETHER WITH THE GERMAN BAND
RAMMSTEIN,
KMFDM ARE KICKING OFF THE NORTHAMERICAN TOUR AROUND HELLOWEEN.
THE GENERAL ROUTING WILL BE CLOCKWISE AROUND THE U.S. AND CANADA, STARTING IN
CALIFORNIA.
TOUR-DATE WILL BE POSTED HERE AS SOON AS WE CONFIRM THEM.
Download's new album 'lll' features a collaboration between cEvin Key
(formerly of Skinny Puppy), Anthony Valcic and Philth. Recorded at their
own SubConscious Studios in Vancouver, lll is Download's second
full-length
release on Nettwerk Records. Their first, "The Eyes Of Stanley Pain", is
approaching sales of 20,000 in North America.
The album once again features brilliant artwork by Dave McKean, the
artist
behind the cover artwork for the 'Sandman' comic series, which saw a
seven-year run. Dave McKean has also done artwork for Front Line
Assembly,
Stephen King and even wrote and illustrated children's books.
Download's 'III' hits the streets in Canada and the USA on October 21st,
1997.
Download was formed from the ashes of Skinny Puppy by cEvin Key and
Dwayne
Goettel. Past records have featured collaborations with artists and
producers such as Ken Marshall, Mark Spybey and Genesis P. Orridge.
Check out Nettwerk's web site for upcoming artwork, track listings and
sound files.
--
info@nettwerk.com ArmandS http://www.nettwerk.com
THE RELEASE DATE IS GOING TO BE ON 9/23/97.
THE NEW ALBUM HOSTS AN ARRAY OF GUESTS:
-OGRE (SKINNY PUPPY)
Who are you calling a liar, me, or A.P.? actually Ogre has signed a solo
deal with invisible and as soon as I get back to Chicago we will begin
working on that new cd. Maybe that was the source of some confusion?
Anyway, you seem to have completely missed the point about Pigface, it was
always about everyone getting involved...so called name or not. It is a
shame that you cannot simply listen to Mary Dees voice or Bobdogs sitar or
Meg Lee Chin or DJ Jordan Fields or Ben Stokes orMarc Heal orDave Wright or
Mark Spybey or Genesis P Orridge or or or or or What is it that impresses
you about musicians,- sounding great or being told by someone else that
they sound great and are therfore impressive.
I have stopped listing all of the names on the front cover because I am
tired of people like you who cannot see past it.
Thankyou though for, despite your petty snobbery, saying how great the cd
sounds.
1. Get a life.
Love Martin
It looks like Ogre is NOT on it. But here's what Caroline's website has to say about those who are:
ck
http://www.vkool.com/subconscious/
subConscious Communications
Sorry about the lack of updates. I'm on the road right now and am having a hell of a time getting my email. but, obviously, i can ftp. i hope to get an update or two up soon.
November 23,1997
'The Center Bullet' web site adds gear info and pictures.The Center Bullet, run by Philip Berry, has a new updated page with most of the gear Skinny Puppy used and pictures of many of them. If you're like me, meaning you are not a musician, you may have no idea what the stuff looks like. Well wonder no more (sorta) and check out the page, just click here to jump right to the page or click on the earlier link to check out the whole page.
November 20,1997
First i say, 'greg is one of the better guys out there,' and then he proves it.Greg Clow was good enough to pop me these next two slabs of info. First, he drops in this info regarding another entry into Cleopatra's Skinny Puppy Tribute album. Remember, from October 20th, Claus Larsen of Leætherstrip will cover 'Testure?'
Here's a tidbit of info for ya Kinder Atom have been asked to contribute
a track to the SP tribute album on Cleopatra, and they're considering
doing a mambo-techno version of "Smothered Hope".
Not new, but i never mentioned this before.What can i say?!??! Click here for the review and below is yer blurb.
Moving away from
Key's industrial roots, this disc consists mainly of stark and
minimal electronics, influenced equally by the classic techno
sounds of Detroit, and the classic pot parlours of Amsterdam
(Key's current home away from home).
Sonic-Boom has two small reviews up in the November issue.Sonic-Boom has reviews of Download's 'Charlie's Family' and Doubting Thomas' 'Father Don't Cry.' You can also check out a KMFDM interview that has a little Ogre info in it, if you're so inclined.
Greg has done a review for Luna Kafé.Greg Clow, one of the better guys out there, has reviewed Download's 'III' for Luna Kafé. Below is a clip from the review and click here to check out the whole thing.
Remaining from his earlier work, however, are Key's brooding ambient
soundscapes, giving the material a dense and lush undercurrent that works
in perfect harmony with the minimal beats that lay on top of the mix. The track
Beauty In The Eyes is a great example of this juxtaposition: starting with a
fragile, Aphex-style melody, and a crunchy beat floating around the edges, it
moves into a stark centrepiece of ambience featuring a mournful cello, and
then suddenly degenerates into a wall of static driven madness before fading
into the next track. Even through all the stylistic dips and turns, it never
seems to lose its focus or direction, a flaw that infiltrated some of Download's
earlier material.
November 18,
1997
Did you wonder what the hard copy looked like?Back on November 5th I posted the location of the new Download biography. Scroll down and check it out if you missed it. The cool folks at Nettwerk were kind enough to drop me a hard copy. Below is (obviously) a scan of it.
Check out the new Download page.It seems to me like there'd be more Download fan web pages. Well, now there's one more. Page-owner Jason has pumped up a new site. Click here to check it out.
HEY!! After two and a half months Yahoo picked up my site! Check the skies 'cause it may be the end of time! :-) Just in case you care I'm listed in the Skinny Puppy and the Download section.
November 17,
1997
The Industrial Bible reviews the re-release of 'Father Don't Cry' from Doubting Thomas.The Industrial Bible slapped up a review, in the November issue, of the Doubting Thomas re-release 'Father Don't Cry.' Below (of course) is a blurb, click here for the full review.
The real gem of this MCD is the extended mix of the title track. Father Don't Cry is one of those songs that will remain a standard in the atmospheric electro industrial genre; a track which many others will be judged by.
November 13,
1997
Chris Vrenna of NiN will do a remix on the upcomming SP remix album.Mr. Tangent dropped this bit of news in a few places that was picked up from Rocktropolis in the 'allstar' section. More bits of information keep popping up about this remix album. I hope we see a tracklist soon. Below is a clip from the article, click here for the full thing.
He's also remixing a Skinny Puppy song for the
remix album due on Nettwerk in 1998. There's no title,
release date, or track listing available yet for the
Skinny Puppy project.
"Being an industrial kid of the '80s, there are
only two bands to idolize -- Ministry and Skinny
Puppy," he says, "so to be able to remix one of the
those two bands is really exciting."
Ogre will collaborate on soundtrack to the 'Witchblade'comic book.Mr. Tangent also dropped this note from the same place. Yeah, i know it wounds weird, but odds are i'll buy it no matter what. So here's a clip and click here for the while article.
Kat Bjelland,
singer/
guitarist of
Babes in
Toyland, is in
the midst of
putting
together an
album inspired
by the comic
book
Witchblade for
DreamWorks, which will feature her
collaborating with such artists as
Girls Against Boys, Kim Fox, the
Melvins, Lydia Lunch, Arto Lindsay,
Jim Thirlwell of Foetus, Chris
Vrenna, Ogre of Skinny Puppy, Cibo
Matto, Mimi Goese, and Subcircus, in
addition to a Babes In Toyland track
or two.
November 12,
1997
Scott finds old advert for Too Dark Park.
Sorry about the lack of updates lately, i've been kinda busy. More to the point, while my girlfriend is away i took it upon myself to throw away a ton of my old rags. I found this 'Too Dark Park' advert on the back of Alternative Press, issue 34. There is also a review of 'Too Dark Park' in there also, which i may transcribe if enough of you folks ask. Anywho, below is a scan of the advert and a copy of the text from the yellow box.
Within the tiny space afforded by myself, 'Too Dark Park' looms, as if beckoned, over a lost child madly scraping the Earth around it. Without the insight proven, before the earthy facts bore a hole straight through the living carcass shell, 'Too Dark Park' was lush, green, a veritable toyland of smoggy highs. Old Skin Beak now rules the park closed in by wicker brittle, dull, lifeless. Each season follows the next with the hope of rebellion. Rest assured there is plenty of room in 'Too Dark Park.'
-Ogre
An American Werewolf In Paris features 'Hardset Head.'
I've been told this one a few times, so i guess i better post it eh? The new movie 'An American Werewolf in Paris' features 'Hardset Head' from 'The Process' on the soundtrack and in the movie. I've not seen it but i hear the song comes on during a multi-Werewolf rampage scene. Also, it's track 9 on the soundtrack itself.
November 5,
1997
Nettwerk releases a new biography.
Ok, here's some good stuff from Nettwerk. We've got confirmation, again, of a tour. Another band has been confirmed for the 'Resilient' remixes and an upcoming video to look forward to! Click here for the bio and below are a few select bits of interesting stuff from the bio relating to 'III'.
Download will be releasing remixes by Autechre and Berlin's Chain Reaction crew derived from tracks on III, as well
as a video by award-winning director Rod Chong (Front Line Assembly, Marilyn Manson). A subCONSCIOUS label
tour will follow.
November 4,
1997
Six scans from the new Download album.
Here are six shots from the new Download. I think the art goes with the sound and feel of the album very well. In fact, it's some of the best album art i've seen recently.
Straight outta No. Cal. a KMFDM concert review.
From Usenet, Pannkaiser posted to alt.music.kmfdm is review of the San Francisco show. Below is the snipet regarding Ogre. For the whole review click here.
The song order gets a little foggy, but the highlight was
around this time. The beginning of Torture began bleebing and clanking
along when !OGRE! made a somewhat dramatic enterance. The older folks
who knew who he was went nuts. He sang his song but stayed on stage
and played along for the rest of the show! except for maybe one of the
encores. He looked like he was just having a good time, harassing En Esch
every once in a while, grabbing his crotch, wrestling, etc.
November 2,
1997
In a short response cEvin comments on reviews of 'III'.
Aaron Habel was way enough to inform me of, then forward to me, this e-mail from cEvin. Aaron had asked him what he felt about some of the reviews 'III' had been getting. Thanks Aaron!
funny , most if not all the reviews we recieve are very positive.
I t depends on what type of listener. Metal heads don't like it cause
there's no guitar.
October 31,
1997
Mary Spybey posted the lyrics to Sidewinder, Killfly and Collision.
Jason was checking out #download on EFnet last night and picked up these lyrics that Mark Spybey happended to be posting. Check 'em out:
SIDEWINDER.
for tomorrow is another day
pig-hole
animosity
this is your reward
this is your reward
sometimes when the night
screams into the knife
i hate everything you are
hate everything you are
rotten formless corpse
go away and hide
go away and die
how my heart it bleeds
vile American
vile American
everything you are
hate
vile American
everything you are
everything you are
everything you are
vile American
vile American
your words
the taste
of wasted dead
our lives are killfly picking meat
your prophets words are far between
our lives are killflies picking meat
all bones remain in catholic holes
your words
the taste
of wasted dead
our lives are killfly picking meat.
i hear your voice
disappears from view
your burning voice
a thousand miles away
i hear your voice
a thousand miles away
your skin so sharp
your my,only,friend
my father used to take a drink or two when I was young
It was then that hallucinations always dangled from his tongue,
the skies ablaze with ladies legs he used to say,
they¹re kicking from the cloud,
shoes fall from the morning haze
and splat like eggs above the crowd,
can you see them son ?
distant voices,
those distant voices,
distant voices,
those distant,voices.
I hear voices so I wrote,
time it is a great healer..
I hear voices so i wrote
You have time to live your hopes
and then you have just begun
to see there is more to heaven
senses told you this also
so much happens to me
I hear voices so i wrote
only once did I leave my body
others doubt the possibilities.
no.earl grey tea
hot
make it so
engage
insanity is just one small step away from all of us
we peer into the abyss ad what do we see?
a pallid reflection of ourselves
our lives unfurling like some damp flag
yesterdays mirror
tomorrows news
wrapped around some drunks bottle
And Mark had this to say about the download tour.
(oscilate) so on downloads next tour are they just going to play stuff off of eyes w/o lyrics or are you going w/ them spybey?
(spybey) i really don't know
(spybey) i'm simply taking five
There is a poster and postcard availaible.On the Nettwerk Catalouge, Download section, you can order two new download items (not counting 'III' itself). I've got no idea what these look like (let me know if you do), but here's the item info:
Posters ($5)
31308 Download III (18"x24")
October 29,
1997
Some times new may just be new to me.
Sevorg clued me in to the fact that he's had (and i've looked at without registering) a pic of the promo copy of 'The Process' all the time. So slap me silly and check out the thumbnail below. For the full pic check out Skinny Puppy's Last Rites, the picture section, for this and other cool pics.
October 28,
1997
A copy of the text from 'The Process' promo copy has surfaced.
Dierdre sent up to Epilogue a copy of the text from the promo of Skinny Puppy's 'The Process.' Here is what it had to say and note the misspelling of Nivek Ogre's name:
"Fire. Flood. A Religious Cult. Shangri-La. Death. Sound biblical? Maybe, but in this case, it's all part of the story behind the making of SKINNY PUPPY's American Recordings debut, and their final studio album, The Process. Ever since their formation in 1983, the pioneering North American indsutrial trio has led a troubled, but brilliant existence (NIN's Trent Reznor unabashedly cites them as a principal influene).
Once again, the webring grows.
I can't help but find it intestering that even though the band has been broken up for some time now, the fan websites continue to grow. What can i say? The music lives on. OK, back to the point, here are three new, small pages. Nothing much new, but again, they are new and growing (i hope).
October 23,
1997
The Download Website was updated to give it the 'III' look.
As i was checking out the state of the universe i noticed the Download Website got a new look to go with the new album. Click here to check it out.
It looks like Euro release will be in November.
Also on the Download Website there was info from the Off Beat Records page on the Download 'III' release. Here's what it says:
THE NEW DOWNLOAD WILL BE OUT IN MID NOVEMBER.
Speak your mind to Martin.
Yes this has nothing to do with Skinny Puppy/Ogre/Download but heck, it's interesting! Martin Atkins posted to R.M.I. this message:
In the Pigface tradition, I will be attempting to peel back another layer from
the artist/audience relationship by making myself available for your
amusement. Usually I only get to meet people who, one way or another, wangle
their way backstage after a show. These are not always the people I most want
to speak to and it is certainly not the grooviest time as I am usually in the
middle of some after show trauma with either equipment, people, money, mind,
body, sweat, underwear, etc. I will be reading some of my published written
work, cut up tour diaries, recent pieces and other stuff. People can come and
listen, say 'hello' or 'fuck off', ask about anything...Talk about whatever
you want to talk about. I hope it will be a rewarding experience for us all.
-Martin Atkins
Fri. Oct. 24 Tulsa, OK
Mowhawk Music 7pm
51st Place @ Sheridan
CD World 3pm
5706 E. Mockingbird #110
Vintage Vinyl 3pm
6610 Del Mar
Digital Underground 1pm
526 S. 5th St.
Soundgarden 8pm
1616 Thames St.
October 22,
1997
The cover, back and inside of the new art from the 'Father Don't Cry' Re-release.
Ok, so it's not the Download 'III' art, but at least my scanner is working again. The CD is in a cardboard case (what the hell do you call those?) so there is no insert and there is nothing on the CD side, just a black holder. Here are the pics, click on them for a bigger picture:
October 21,
1997
Run/Walk/Skip/Prance/Whatever down to your local record store and pick up the new Download album!
'III' is out in North America today, i'm unsure about other availability. I should have my copy in about 3 more hours. Check it out, and you can send me a review if you feel so inclined and i'll post it here (assuming it doesn't suck :).
October 20,
1997
Cleopatra's Skinny Puppy Tribute album will include a cover of 'Testure.'
Once again, Maggot has come through with a killer bit of info. Claus has picked the Skinny Puppy song he will cover and it's 'Testure.' Interesting choice. 'Testure' is perhaps Skinny Puppy's most popular/accessible song imho; i wonder where he will go with it. Below is message from the Leætherstrip mailing list. Oh yea, be sure to check out Maggot's Industrial page here and give him your support.
Hi all.
The song will be "Testure".
Thanks for your input and ideas.
I started working an hour ago.
October 18,
1997
Plans are being made for a Skinny Puppy Tribute album from Cleopatra.
Maggot, who has started a cool Industrial Music link page here, posted to Epilogue this e-mail from Claus Larsen of Leætherstrip:
Hi All.
SO, now Cleopatra is starting to get a SP tribute cd together! What will
be next "ABBA", ha ha.
You can respond to the Leætherstrip Mailing List. For info on how to do that follow this link here, to a Leætherstrip home page (not the official one). And i'd hate to go into detail, but there already has been an ABBA tribute album. The horror!
Which song should I cover???
thanks
cEvin drops a line regarding gear and the possibility of touring with Ogre.
Dominic posted to Usenet on alt.fan.skinny an e-mail he sent to cEvin and his reply. Now don't get too excited, cEvin just says anything is possible, not probable or likely. Interesting info on gear used. Here is the original message:
Anyways I have a couple
questions, In the SP video collection, during the live videos it shows
they
synths with tons of disks stacked up all over the place, where those
all
sampels or what? (just stage props maybe?)there was tons . Also, the
question you probably get a millon times .. Do you ever think Skinny
Puppy
will ever do one more tour?
And here is the reply from cEvin:
thanks
hey
in the old days you needed lots of disks. I had one disk for the
upper part
of my keyboard and several for the lower. Each of us used samplers
which
every song
needed to be loaded up with sounds. It was crazy.
October 17,
1997
A small quote from an upcoming interview.
H e l l, who is working on a new e-zine, scored an interview with cEvin Key. The full interview is not ready yet, or in english, but here is an excerpt from it regarding a possible direction Download and/or cEvin may be taking. When it's ready i'll be posting the link here. Until then, H e l l may tease us with a few more quotes!
Ideally we are looking for the right filmakers to come along who
desire some real different music for their film. I think this is where our
future may lye in a strong sense.
October 16,
1997
Dave 'Rave' Ogilvie now seems to be an official member of Nine Inch Nails.
Dave Sticherd saw on R.M.I. a post from Skarekroe quoting the insert from the David Bowie Single 'I'm Afraid of Americans.' Here's the quote:
production and additional performances by nine inch nails: trent reznor,
charlie clouser, keith hillebrandt, dave 'rave' ogilvie, danny lohner
Does this mean Rave, after remixing lots of NIN songs plus other stuff, is now a full member? Is it a misprint? Do you not know who Rave is? The short is: Rave produced almost everything Skinny Puppy ever did and was listed as a member of Skinny Puppy on VIVIsectVI. For more details check out the FAQ, the link is on the right.
Thanks for stopping in.
It looks like we are going to hit the 1000 mark in a little while today. Thanks so much for looking in. Extra thanks to those who send me info and to those who send me mail like 'cool page dude!' If you're visitor 1000 and would like to be remembered for it, send me a screenshot and i'll note your place in history! :)
October 13,
1997
Even though it's not out yet we have a review.
This review comes from the Industrial Bible. It's not the best review by any standard, but i'd prefer to judge for myself on the 21st. Click here to check it out. There is also a short 'Charlie's Family' review here. Here is a quote from the 'III" review:
At first, III might be compared to
cEvin's recent Plateau project, but after several more listens
I discovered that it sounds much more like a combination
between Plateau and Philth's project, Off and Gone.
A new look for a cool page.
Sevorg has pumped-up his great page Skinny Puppy's Last Rites. Check it out! He was kind enough to use my page as a link under 'Info' and 'Music News.' How can you not love that?
One new page, one reworked page and one Polish page.
Polish? Well here's a page for you!
The Skinny Puppy Convulsion has joined the ring sporting a new look.
Jahya is a new small page. I was visitor number 6 so check it out and lend your support.
October 8,
1997
AP Review of Music for Grass Bars.
Below is a review from Alternative Press Issue 112 (Oasis Issue) of platEAU's Music For Grass Bars.
PLATEAU - Music for Grass Bars
October 7,
1997
An update to the Skinny Puppy FAQ.
Cory and SKUMM have updated the 'covers just about everything' Skinny Puppy FAQ. You can check out version 2.0 by clicking on 'Skinny Puppy FAQ' over on the right table.
Wanna send your demo to Subconscious Communications?.
I saw over on the Subconscious Communications web site an address where you can send your career beginning demo tape to. Here's the address:
Submit a demo tape to subConscious...
mail to the address below:
#800, 525, Seymour Street.
Vancouver, B.C. Canada. V6B 3H7
A small new page and a new member to the Web Ring.
This page is a bit hokey, but aren't we all sometimes? It's got just three pictures but to the best of my knowledge i've never seen them before. In fact i'm not even sure who put them up there. Whatever, just click here to check it out.
October 3,
1997
Lyrics from 'Torture' from the new KMFDM.
Slow news week so far this week. Some people have gotten promo copies of Downloads III, but alas I don't rate enough to get one. Ok, back to the point: here's the words, written by Ogre, from 'Torture' from the new KMFDM 'symbol' album. Click here to check them out.
More dates for the tour with Ogre.
Click here for the tour dates over on the KMFDM page. Hopefully we'll get some reviews soon. If you go to a show, send me your review and i'll post it here!
September 29,
1997
From the inside of the new KMFDM album.
Here is a fair scan from the inside of the new KMFDM 'symbol' album. Click on the thumbnail for a larger, expanded detail picture.
Some dates for the tour with Ogre.
I saw these tour dates over on the KMFDM page. The list is not yet complete so if your town is not listed, it still may be. I'm hoping for some FLORIDA dates! Anyway, click here to check out the dates on the KMFDM page.
September 25,
1997
Don't use the old E-mail address, use these next three.
The great cEvin Key was kind enough to update me on his current e-mail addresses. Do not use his old address 'ckey@cyberstore.ca' anymore, you'd just be wasting your time. Here's a quote of the e-mail he sent me:
new email yah subconscious@vkool.com ckey@vkool.com
or ckey@direct.ca
September 24,
1997
30 Second Wav and Mov sound files for each track on the album.
The Painiac saw on Nettwerk page these wonderful sound bites from the new album and a picture of the cover. Below is a copy of the text accompanying the sounds.
Download's III features a collaboration between cEvin Key (formerly of Skinny Puppy), Anthony
Valcic and Philth. Recorded at their own subCONSCIOUS Studios in Vancouver, III is Download's
second full-length release on Nettwerk Records.
And here's the cover art:
September 23,
1997
Check out the re-release plus new unrelesed tracks in your record store today.
Ok, it was in fact yesterday that it was re-released but my record store (and perhaps yours) gets it's new stuff on Tuesdays and Fridays. Here's the release info:
Catalog #:sub 009 (subconscious), MET 065(Metropolis).
Check out Nivek Ogre on 'Torture,' track five.
September 21,
1997
Ogre's new band Ritalin on Invisible Records now has a small web page.
Mark Weddle found this beginning of a web page over on the Invisible site. I guess i should consider changing my site name from 'WELT" to 'Ritalin' eh? Either way here is a copy of what it says:
If you're here, then you probably read Alternative Press' August 1997 issue mentioning the following:
September 20,
1997
Realaudio format of a new KMFDM song.
On Epilouge, Wayne Cheong forwarded this cool link for a hint of the new KMFDM album that has Ogre on at least one track (track 5 I think).
Those interested in hearing new kmfdm check out the link below:
> To: wayne07@cyberway.com.sg
> Subject: Electronic Deconstruction Mailing List
> Date: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 5:48 AM
>
> Hey Rivetheads!
>
> You knew this list would pay off in some form or another, right?
>
> Well here ya go... a sneak peak into the new KMFDM album! Just point
> your browsers to: here
>
> Look for the new album in stores Sept. 23rd!
>
>
>
> -Rance
>
> Deconstruct now!
> http://users.dwx.com/~rance/edindex.html
September 18,
1997
New Download track from SCI-FI CAFE now availabe as MP3.
Dustin made us a MP3 (sounds good) and it's available here.LINK REMOVED Please, if you like the song, buy the album. Mine gets here this Friday.
A tidbit of info.
The Download web site, info section, had this regarding the OffBeat release date for you Euro. fans.
Seems that 'III' is being released in October instead of mid-September... I recently emailed Thorston at OffBeat
and he said it will be released in the middle of October.. so it may seem that 'III' will have a simultaneous release
in Europe and North America...? We'll see.
September 16,
1997
New Download track on Hypnotic compilation SCI-FI CAFE.
Dustin Keyser on Epilouge clued us in to a new Download Track. Here's what he had to say:
Just picked up a compilation off of Hypnotic called SCI-FI CAFE that features different artists doing their own
versions of theme songs from various sci-fi classics or songs inspired by them.. Just mentioning this because it
has a new Download track called (ODE TO ROLLERBLADE) which is inspired by the movie of the same name.
I don't know if this a sign of what's to come from their new album. It probably isn't but it's a cool song none the
less. The other bands on the cd are as follows: The Electric Sky Church[Dune(Prophecy theme)],
LCD[Independence Day], Loop Guru[Star Trek], Leatherstrip[X-Files theme], Cyphonix Palacios[Close
Encounters of the Third Kind], Astralasia[Doctor Who], Pressurehed[Lost in Space], Information Society[Star
Trek(Doomsday theme)], Kinder Atom[Escape From New York], Cathexis[In Search Of], and finally Space Ship
Eyes[Liquid Sky]. Overall I think it's a pretty damn good cd. Also, anybody seen In Search Of or Liquid Sky?
Never heard of them.
Dustin was kind enough to e-mail me the catalogue number for those of you who need it for ordering or other reasons:
The catalog number is CLP 0097-2 1997 Hypnotic
Recordings.
September 12,
1997
New album next year
Dimitri the webmaster for a good Tear Garden web site alerted me to this info regarding the new album. Also, if you've not heard any Tear Garden yet (how could you not?!?!) be sure to check out the RealAudio files there.
Got an e-mail from cEvin Key. The new Tear Garden
record is not yet completed. The rumor said it was
imminent but as cEvin told me, they will probably be
recording it next year since Edward is expecting a
second child. Edward is already the happy father of a
son called Calyxx. Tear Garden won't support any
date of the Legendary Pink Dots tour.
New look for page
Check out the new graphics and the Subconscious Communications web site.
September 8,
1997
No tour details yet but I wonder if we'll see platEAU as the opening band.
I saw this info on the Download web site in the info section.
A little bit of more info on III.
And this from the Subconscious web site in the releases section.
Replase date and tracklisting.
Also from Subconscious web site a track listing and release date for the re-release of the 'Father Don't Cry' single with new tracks.
Catalog #:
sub 009 (subconscious)
MET 065(Metropolis)
Father don't Cry (ext) / THC (*unreleased) / Turn a new Leaf / Excrement / movie 13 / that problem child /
majickal horse (*unreleased) / come in peace
Way cool MPG3 from Kali's bootleg list.
This may be old to you, but new to me. Kali's Skinny Puppy Bootleg List has a cool MPG3 of 'Death' from 'The Process.' It's about 3 megs in size and the quality is suprisingly good. (hint)Now if only he'd put up the rest of the demos.(/hint)
September 5,
1997
Dates, venues and details still pending.
I saw on the KMFDM web site this cool tour poster and noticed that Ogre was listed. The text below was also included. It's now possible that we'll see Download and KMFDM with Ogre on tour this fall. That plus the three Download releases could make for a very nice autumn!
TOURING IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN IN OCTOBER, 1997.
September 3,
1997
Release information from Nettwerk.
Rene forwarded to Epilouge a press release regarding the release of the new Download album 'lll' and here's what it had to say:
Hello there....here's the latest on Download:
thanks for reading
\ Nettwerk Productions / {N} \ Nettwerk Productions /
Sidewinder EP: the 8 song collection of Download remixes is
available from Nettwerk's Mailorder Dpt.
Contact them at: mail.orders@nettwerk.com
Or check out our on-line catalogue at:
http://www.nettweb.com/cat
Version 1.42 available in 'INFO' section.September 1,
1997
Ogre track on new KMFDM album.
WORK ON THE NEW ALBUM HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
EVERYBODY HAS LEFT THE STUDIO AND RETURNED TO THEIR DAILY ROUTINES. NOW THE AFTERMATH OF
MASTERING THE RECORD, PUTTING THE PACKAGING AND BOOKLET TOGETHER HAS BEGUN.
-RAYMOND WATTS (PIG)
-TIM SKOLD (SKOLD)
-ABBY TRAVIS (BECK, ELASTICA, The Abby Travis Foundation)
-WILLIAM RIEFLIN (YOU NAME IT...)
-MICHEL BASSIN (TREPONEM PAL)
August 29,
1997
Ogre will have a solo album on Invisible.
You said -
>"btw,
>did you notice the reason atkins didn't advertise the amazing line-up on
>this release? there wasn't on! oh it's a good album, but i guess i've
>come to expect more impressive musicians on a pigface album than jim
>marcus, marc heal, and the singer from chainsuck. didn't a recent a.p.
>magazine say ogre was gonna be on it? liars! "
2. Get your own opinion.
3. Get a clue.
4. Be happy
August 27,
1997
Ogre is not on the new Pigface album.
What is known.
Among the current incarnation of Pigface are longtime
collaborators Paul Ferguson, Charles Levi, Genesis P-Orridge, Jim
Marcus, Martin Atkins, and Dirk Flanigan and - in keeping with the
tradition which began with Trent Reznor's early involvement - Pigface
has enlisted many new and influential artists including Meg Lee Chin,
Ben Stokes of DHS, Mick Harris (Scorn), Mark Spybey (Dead Voices on
Air), Marc Heal (Ashtrayhead), and Duncan X of Sheep on Drugs.
August 26,
1997
Is Ogre on it?
August 25,
1997
E-Mail from Cevin
yes indeed , a unreleased track from the unreleased single for Candle.
Morpheous is the correct title and was recorded in Malibu 93/94.
alas there are other tracks still remaining they own.